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  • 05-11-2008 8:09 AM

    CFP Board Actions

     My belief is that most posts should be no longer than a one
    screenful, or two at the most. But after an initial flurry of
    interest and concern, the blogosphere has been unbelievably quiet
    about the array of decisions made by CFP Board. Actions by the Board
    have opened the door to the real possibility that political and
    financial influences will undermine the integrity of the marks. This
    long post (apologies in advance) will hopefully promote discussion
    about issues important to our profession.

    Several thought-leaders of the profession have attempted “back-
    channel” negotiations with various Directors and/or the CEO of CFP
    Board. At the same time, various Directors have reached out to
    respected certificants in an attempt to see if some resolution might
    be possible. There have been, to my knowledge, at least four
    separate such attempts to head off public debate.

    We should always be open to discussions. However, it is a mistake
    for certificants to refrain from acting in the hopes that one of
    these back-channel efforts will produce real reform. What CFP Board
    least desires is any public debate that might reveal divisions
    between the Board and certificants.

    Strategies by the Board of “divide and conquer” and engaging in
    endless negotiations fit perfectly with the goal of taking no
    action, letting time pass, and hoping the whole controversy blows
    over. By contrast, what certificants most need to bring real change-—
    or at least a DISCUSSION about real change—-is vigorous public
    debate. Otherwise, it justifies the CFP Board in continuing to
    ignore these issues and assume that those interested in discussing
    them are limited to Marty, me, and the four other “Quitters” as CFP
    Board has intimated.  [Disclosure: I was one of the Commissioners
    who felt compelled to resign.]

    The actions taken by CFP Board resulting in the March 8, 2008 mass
    resignation by a majority of the members of the Disciplinary and
    Ethics Commission (DEC) are fully set forth in the White Paper,
    which is posted on this website and is available elsewhere.

    The White Paper details the reasons mass resignation seemed the only
    alternative, and also provides the background and a recounting of
    the events leading to this protest by a group of very concerned and
    very committed certificants. I hope everyone takes the time to read
    the White Paper.

    The January Resolution of CFP Board [see the White Paper]
    transferred oversight of the certificant disciplinary process from
    certificants (the Board) to the CEO and his staff (none of whom were
    ever practitioners). But the actions affecting the DEC were merely
    the flashpoint. The issues have now morphed from those focused only
    on the disciplinary process to wider concerns shared by a larger
    group of certificants about governance and decision-making at CFP
    Board.

    The real issues are how can an organization whose $15 million annual
    budget  comes almost entirely from certificants ignore those same
    certificants when making major decisions? There was no meaningful
    discussion with certificants about the following decisions:

    • Moving the organization’s headquarters from Denver to
    Washington, D.C.
    • Terminating the tradition of the Chair of the Council on
    Examinations attending Board meetings.
    • Terminating the tradition of the Chair of the DEC attending
    Board meetings.
    • Closing the entire Board meeting to the public.
    • Closing the entire Board meeting to certificants.
    • Ceasing to publish Minutes of Meetings of the Board of
    Directors
    • Adoption of a Code of Professional Responsibility with
    a “watered down” fiduciary standard.
    • Transferring oversight of the examination process from
    certificants (the Board) to the CEO and his staff (none of whom were
    ever financial planning educators or practitioners).
    • Finally, as noted above, transferring oversight of the
    certificant disciplinary process from certificants (the Board) to
    the CEO and his staff (none of whom were ever practitioners), and
    authorizing actions including:
       o The CEO selecting the members of the DEC
       o The CEO selecting the volunteers who serve on hearing panels
       o The CEO deciding who will serve as the officers of the DEC
       o The CEO having his attorney present during deliberations

    Each of these decisions has grave potential to adversely impact our
    profession and to open the marks to the basest kind of political and
    financial influences. The refusal of the CFP Board to engage in
    meaningful discussion PRIOR to making these decisions is dismissive
    and insulting to the practitioners whose money funds the
    organization. Even the suggestion from the DEC that the resignations
    could be avoided if the CFP Board merely suspended implementation
    pending discussion of the January Resolution was summarily dismissed
    by the Board without any real consideration.

    DISCUSSION AFTER THE FACT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Each of the decisions
    bulleted above should be reexamined, debated publicly, and a
    decision informed by input from the most critical stakeholders-—the
    certificants-—considered. It is not too late to undo each and every
    one of these decisions if that is what the majority of certificants
    wishes.

    Unless the CFP Board takes meaningful action, it is time for action.
    The strategy of endless negation without good faith action is
    unacceptable. “Meaningful action” to me means:

    -->Immediately suspending implementation of the January
    Resolution until AFTER there has been a full and public debate.

    -->Stating a willingness to reconsider each of the bulleted
    actions listed above.

    Absent meaningful action by CFP Board, the action steps that occur
    to me for certificants to raise are these:

    1. Raise a treasury. The CFP Board is using our annual dues to
    engage their PR machine in efforts to disparage those of us who
    challenge their decisions. It will take money to promote awareness
    (among certificants and the public) of our views on these important
    issues.

    Pledges of totaling nearly $15,000 have been received. Money is
    starting to come in. More is needed. If you are willing to
    contribute to promoting public discussion, please contact Marty
    Kurtz or me [bkohler@bdmp.com].

    2. Raise awareness. Many certificants still do not understand the
    governance issues at CFP Board that are so critical to the future of
    the financial planning profession. We need to get the word out.

    Funds should be used to:

       A. Hire a PR firm. We need to develop a strategy to effectively
    counter the massive PR effort undertaken by CFP Board to justify
    their actions.

       B. Take full-page ads in the trade magazines explaining the issues.

    3. Explore the legal issues. The actions taken by CFP Board pursuant
    to the January Resolution were apparently taken in violation of the
    Disciplinary Rules and Procedures adopted by this very same Board of
    Directors. We need to understand:

       A. Whether legal grounds exist to challenge the actions of CFP Board
    relative to the DEC.

       B. What are the checks and balances are for a 501(C)(3) organization—
    that is, what constraints are there to prevent the directors of such
    an organization from taking actions that may not be in the public
    interest?

       C. What are the contours of the fiduciary obligations of directors
    of such organizations relative to excessive delegation to staff? Can
    a board of directors decline to take oversight responsibility for
    their organization claiming that they have transferred oversight to
    the CEO and given him instructions about what to do and how to do it?

    Only once independent legal counsel has provided guidance can we
    debate the merits of taking legal action to attempt to have the CFP
    Board live up to its obligations to the body of certificants and to
    the public.

    To be clear, the CFP Board owns the marks. But the marks have no
    value without the certificants who actually serve the public. The
    CFP Board serves the public interest best by protecting the
    integrity of the marks. How they should act to protect the integrity
    of the marks is and should be a topic for public discussion with the
    certificants and other stakeholders.


    I speak here only for myself, but hope that others will begin to see
    the importance of these issues and begin to engage in public
    discussion about them. Unfortunately, the issues are complex and not
    easily reducible to “sound bites.”

    The CFP Board is counting on apathy among certificants. This will
    allow the Board to continue to abdicate their responsibilities to
    certificants. It will also allow them to move ahead in whatever
    directions they choose, regardless of what the majority of
    certificants feels is appropriate.

    The Board can persist in this manner of operating [making decisions
    and announcing them (rather than discussing them first)] only if WE—-
    the body of certificants-—allow them to do so. I, for one, am
    unwilling to allow the Board to continue to act without
    accountability to certificants.


    BtD, --Barry Kohler, JD, CFP®, CLU
    Portland, Maine

  • 05-11-2008 1:32 PM In reply to

    RE: CFP Board Actions

     

    Thanks Barry!  How do the rest of you feel?  Do you agree with Barry?  Do you have affirmative or dissenting opinions with him?  Please, post what you believe!  Marty

    Martin Kurtz, CFP, AIFA
    President
    The Planning Center, Inc.
    1701 River Drive #300
    Moline, IL. 61265
    309-797-4030
  • 05-12-2008 1:59 AM In reply to

    Re: RE: CFP Board Actions

     I've been watching and reading and listening for the past 2 months now.  I'm struck by a key issue that is preventing "...the word from getting out...".  It is simply that there are a number of things going on and a number of things that have happened and while current and past 'insiders' understand and grasp the short and long range implications of recent events, the at large community of CFP licensees don't.  Most did not or do not understand how everything works at the Board and what its functions and capabilities are.  Most certificants have their license and go about their living and working lives and take the marks and the Board for granted.

    We need to get the word out.... It has to be done simply by spelling it out for people to grab their attention.  The long posts and the white paper are important for the details once people's interest has been piqued and their passions stirred.  They are however, too long and detailed to initially 'suck them in'.  In order to get people curious and interested in taking the next steps, brief bullet point summaries need to be sent out telling what happened,  what potential consequences could ensue and what they should do next.  Unfortunately, I think we must bend to the realities that we all live in and understand that there is only so much attention time available for new issues and we can't catapult ourselves into the forefront to grab people's attention by putting out long and detailed communications.

    Naturally, it is difficult to create responsible, short, succinct and passionate communications that will bring people in without sounding like propaganda, but we have to find a way..  I know 4 or 5 respected peers that would be very alarmed at recent developments at the Board, but they're too busy to read the White Paper.  Frankly, they need it spelled out for them.  if we can find a way to do this, I think we will be able to build the critical interest, support and momentum much faster.

  • 05-12-2008 9:24 AM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     Has anyone heard what is cost to dump the lease in Denver for the move to Washington DC?  My recollection is that they rented that upgraded space when Lou Garday was CEO.  Am I remembering correctly?  m

    Martin Kurtz, CFP, AIFA
    President
    The Planning Center, Inc.
    1701 River Drive #300
    Moline, IL. 61265
    309-797-4030
  • 05-12-2008 11:52 AM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     

    I've read your excellent white paper and your detailed post. Its easy to get caught up in the momentum and in the apparently justified outrage, but before I do, I'd like to find out what the Board's rational was for making the assorted decisions you listed. Can you tell me where I can find that?

    Is there going to be some sort of meeting at Retreat?

    Regards,

     

    Alan

  • 05-12-2008 2:34 PM In reply to

    Re: RE: CFP Board Actions

     David--

    You are absolutely right. Would you be willing to post a sample of the kind message of which you are thinking?

    As a "recovering attorney" I can barely say "hello" in less than a couple of paragraphs! :-)

    Best, --Barry

  • 05-12-2008 2:35 PM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     The cost of breaking the lease in Denver and the cost of the lease in DC are more pieces of information never made public or released to certificants, as far as I know.

    --Barry

  • 05-12-2008 2:42 PM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     Alan--

    One of the big issues is that the rationale of CFP Board for any of the decisions has never been made public. They meet in secret, decide in secret, then announce a decision in public.

    After that, they decide how to implement in secret, give secret instructions to the CEO, decide in secret what will count as success, and move on to the next issue on their also secret agenda.

    As for a meeting at Retreat, I speak now only as an attendee, not as a member of the planning committee.

    As I understand it, there will certainly be an opportunity for certificants to gather and discuss these issues. Whether CFP Board chooses to have a representative attend this meeting is unknown to me. They tend to choose carefully where and when they will meet an audience of certificants.

    My understanding is that there may also be a "town hall" meeting at which representatives of CFP Board of Directors will be present. Hopefully, someone from the Certificants Council will also have an opportunity to present an opposing view, and then questions and comments can be directed to either CFP Board or CC.

    --BK

     

  • 05-12-2008 6:35 PM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

    Barry and Marty,

    It was in Lou Garday's time that the office was moved a few blocks in Denver.  My understanding was that as a result of the move the Board consolidated space on one floor and built in larger conference rooms - to reduce the costs of the BoG from needing meeting rooms at hotels.  I remember Lou saying that the move would save the Board over $1 million.  It those days discussions like that were made pretty much in the public and the members of the BoG routinely shared information with us.  I suspect that may have been the last financially prudent decision they have made.

    During my conversation with Alan Goldfarb a few weeks ago, I asked what the reason for the move to DC was.  He gave me two reasons.  One was that the Board was unable to find the appropriate type of individual they need as CEO in the Denver area - the second was simply to be in the capital - with everything that entails.

    Ben

     

    Benjamin A. Tobias, CPA/PFS, CFP®, CIMA®
    Tobias Financial Advisors
    1000 S. Pine Island Road, Suite 250
    Plantation, FL 33324
    PH: 954-424-1660
    FAX: 954-424-9545
    Ben@tobiasfinancial.com
    www.tobiasfinancial.com
  • 05-13-2008 12:36 AM In reply to

    Re: RE: A "Get the Word Out" email

     So let's compose the text of a communication that can be 'Cut & Pasted' into an email to encourage attendance at a meeting at the retreat and to be used to communicate issues and capture general populace attention.  I suggest highlighting the 5 most major items and their respective implications.  Perhaps a 'Before and After' format so that people will be educated at the same time since most do not have reference points from which to view the changes.  We begin and end the communication with a call to action but we have to tell people what the action is.  An email bombardment blast to the Board of Directors?   I myself am unclear as to what the objective is.  if it is to get the executive branch to recant its current position, then perhaps an email and letter campaign would be effective.

    David Bennett

  • 05-13-2008 4:27 AM In reply to

    Re: RE: A "Get the Word Out" email

     It seems to me that the overarching objective is to have the CFP Board take into account certificant input before any major decision is made. Since they did not do this, I think each of the major decisions, beginning with the move to Denver, need to be reconsidered.

    The reconsideration would be the CFP Board would publicly state its rationale for the decision and the costs associated with the decision. Then there would be opportunities for meaningful public discussion. After input from certificants, the Board would either reverse the decision or reaffirm it. The top 5 in my view:

    1. The move from Denver to DC.

    2. The decision not to have elected Directors.

    3. Over-reliance on the Carver model--that is, the Board abdicating its responsibilities to certificants, the public, and other stakeholders by delegating its duties to the CEO. Specifically,

       A. Transferring oversight of the examination process from certificants (the Board) to the CEO and staff.

       B. Transferring oversight of the certificant disciplinary process from certificants (the Board) to the CEO and staff.

    OK, there are five points!

    --Barry

     

    certificant inp

  • 05-13-2008 4:44 AM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     I think Director Goldfarb's statement of the "reasons" do NOT explain the move.

    What we need to hear is WHY being in DC was deemed so important. Why is it that an office there would not do--that a move of the entire organization was required?

    It is a perfect example of Herb Daroff's mantra: "secrecy breeds suspicion."

    The suspicions I hear from certificants are that the decision to move the organization to DC was to support a decision made by CFP Board without input from certificants. What decision? The decision to attempt to become the SRO for the financial planning profession and to lobby more effectively for legislation favored by the CFP Board of Directors despite the prohibition on a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization from doing so.

    From that [suspected] reason, it follows that a CEO in Denver would not fill the bill. What was desired was someone who knew his or her way around DC, legislation, lobbyists, financing folks, PACs, etc.

    I do not think the move to DC was or is supported by a majority of certificants and the decision should be among the first to be reconsidered. Everything went quickly downhill since the Board announced the move.

    We need a public discussion about whether CFP Board of Standards should move back to Denver and find an executive director to lead the organization. I do not think the majority of certificants believe that the overriding criterion for the CEO need be expertise in DC politics.

    --BK

     

    Barry L. Kohler, JD, CFP®, CLU

    BDMP Wealth Management

    100 Middle Street

    Portland, ME 04101

     

    Voice/Fax: 207-541-2307      Email: bkohler@bdmp.com

     

     

  • 05-13-2008 5:55 AM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     Original post by Troy Jones elsewhere; reposted by permission:

    Barry and all,
    The FPA Retreat has created a special meeting with the CFP Board in the
    front of the room in town hall style. If ever there were a time to get
    awareness out there and ask the tough questions it would be then. Also
    the FPA is probably the best ally we could have in bringing whatever
    power possible to the CFPBOS.

    troy

     

  • 05-13-2008 6:01 AM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

    Troy--

    Two points:

    1. CFP Board has been very successful in spinning this issue as it best suits them. If a Director from CFP Board has an opportunity to address the town hall meeting and then take questions, it will not afford a fair presentation of the critical issues.

    Only if the Certificants Council has a representative who has equal time to make an opening statement will there be a meaningful opportunity to discuss these issues. Then both the CFP Board representative and the Certificants Council representative should be at the front of the room to field questions.

    In other words, we need more of a debate forum where both sides have an equal opportunity to state the issues as they see them, not another platform for the CFP Board to spin its version of events.

    2. FPA has its own political agenda and issues with CFP Board, and for many reasons, will moderate its role--at least in the early stages of this discussion. We cannot rely on FPA to do the heavy lifting here, even in getting the word out.

    That said, the willingness of FPA to make this space available and to offer a venue at Retreat for discussion of these issues is incredibly helpful.

    Regards, --Barry

     

    Barry L. Kohler, JD, CFP®, CLU

    BDMP Wealth Management

    100 Middle Street

    Portland, ME 04101

     

    Voice/Fax: 207-541-2307      Email: bkohler@bdmp.com

     

     

  • 05-13-2008 6:08 AM In reply to

    Re: CFP Board Actions

     Message by Bill Ramsay; reposted by permission:

    Thanks Barry for putting additional effort into the discussion. I am
    no expert on the functioning of the Board, now or in the past, but
    perhaps my limited involvement can add something different than
    those who have been in the thick of things.

    Dan Candura from the Board gave the ethics class for our FPA
    chapter last Friday. I thought he represented well. He did not
    discuss in length the recent issues, but there were a few
    impressions that I found interesting. Based on Barry's FPA Forum,
    it sounds like the concerned certificants feel the Board is becoming
    less transparent. Dan represented that the changes to the DEC
    were in part because the DEC processes were closed and needed
    to be opened up so that the public would not feel the work was done
    behind closed doors. That logic seems valid to me, and if the Board
    feels openness is important, they should not be closing off Board
    meetings. The attorney present sounds questionable, any
    explanation for why?

    Dan also stressed that the CFP Board is not a membership
    organization that exists to serve CFP certificants, but that it exists to
    serve the public. It is my opinion that if the CFP Board is not to be
    made irrelavent as the regulatory environment continues to evolve
    (and the Rand study feels to me as if the SEC wants to justify
    transferring oversight to an SRO- hence the conclusions that
    brokers and RIAs are providing the same services, the public can't
    tell the difference and almost all clients are happy regardless of the
    service model), then it is important for the CFP Board to be serving
    the public first. If they do, then Certificants will be served by the
    public's respect for the Board and the marks. Again this would
    seem to increase the need for openness at the Board level
    especially. It also would seem to argue for involvement of the
    public.

    The move to DC doesn't seem unreasonable if the regulatory
    environment is about to change. And I seem to recall statements in
    the way past that the CFP Board felt that a government sanctioned
    regulatory structure for financial planning was inevitable and that
    they wanted to be the SRO to do it. Of course, if a finra type
    environment is established, that would not seem to me to be very
    public friendly. There is way too much that goes on with
    unacceptable conflicts with the big industry players, things which get
    purified with suitability and box checked disclosures. The obvious
    problems with the mortgage and housing bubble fiasco cause two
    different reactions based on idealogy- one we need less
    government involvement and two we need more government
    involvement. Based on the Merrill Lynch rule and Paulson's recent
    comments, the SRO route seems like the current administration's
    leaning, and if you haven't seen finra's changed persona- here's
    their marketing tagline- "Every day FINRA protects investors by
    working to keep the capital markets fair". Even their changed name
    implies they want to expand their turf.

    I do not have the specific terminology, but I seem to recall that Dan
    represented that the adopted DEC process was more in line with
    other oversight entities? maybe medical boards? It does seem
    however that quite a bit of power is concentrated at the CEO level,
    could there be an apportioning of DEC selections to the CEO and
    some to the Board?

    On the fiduciary standard, Dan mentioned how the term fiduciary
    has different meanings in different settings and professions (no
    detail that I recall). If true, that could be problematic given the
    inherent nature of the profession, absolute bests and truths are hard
    to come by. He did stress the term "good faith" as having some bite
    to it. I'm no attorney so I don't know the full implicatons. I do think
    the rework that is the Rules of Conduct seems more manageable
    than the former structure.

    I don't understand the downside of the exam oversight process
    being changed. If the test continues to have a targeted pass rate
    (that's what it sounded like the current structure is, no set pass rate,
    each test is judged based on how the participants fared, with the
    pass rate staying pretty low), then as long as qualified certificants
    are involved in making the questions and analyzing the results it
    would seem to be OK to have administrative oversight handled by
    staff- am I missing the nature of the change?

    I seem to recall my impression of the white paper posted by Harv
    regarding the training and education of the DEC folks by prior DEC
    folks. It sounded like it has worked very well, but I did wonder if
    there could be paid folks at the Board who could handle some of
    that process, both for less burden on volunteers and potentially
    lower risk of important understanding not being passed along if a
    group of certificant leaders were less dedicated than what we've
    had. Of course the staff folks would need to be competent.



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